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    Xp limited. No oil in pump.

    Hey all. Feeling sick to my stomach right now.
    I pulled the cones off my pumps to change the oil for the season and the one on my 98 xp was completely dry with a little rust inside. No oil, no water, just dry. It was missing the top bolt to the cone and the other 2 were loose so Iím assuming thatís where it went wrong. I cleaned it best I could and put new oil in. It sounds and runs good with the exception of a low rpm rattle Iíve had for years.
    What are the chances that my pump might be ok? Or should I be looking at another pump. Itís a brass vein pump so donít really want to swap it out. Has anyone else had this happen with a happy outcome? Lol. Thanks for any opinions
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    Re: Xp limited. No oil in pump.

    I would have put a new seal in.
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    Re: Xp limited. No oil in pump.

    Quote Originally Posted by kcr357 View Post
    I would have put a new seal in.
    The cone seal? I did. Or are you talking about the pump seal in the front?
    I replaced the cone seal and found a new bolt from my parts bin. Put them in with locktite and itís holding oil.
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    Re: Xp limited. No oil in pump.

    Has anyone here had this happen before? I’m just curious what the outcome was. I’m hoping to take a short test run Wednesday and see how it acts
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    Re: Xp limited. No oil in pump.

    Check the oil when you come back from riding, betting its full of water.
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    Re: Xp limited. No oil in pump.

    Quote Originally Posted by Myself View Post
    Check the oil when you come back from riding, betting its full of water.
    What makes you say that? Just curious what I may be in for
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    Re: Xp limited. No oil in pump.

    Because the front oil seal is bad......that's what washed all the lube out in the first place.
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    Re: Xp limited. No oil in pump.

    Ok thanks. Well I’ve worked on just about everything possible with these xp’s But I’ve never rebuilt a pump. Is it something I can do at home? Tools required? Just looked in my parts bin and looks like I’ve got a couple oem thrust bearings and a seal but that’s about it so I’ll have to order parts
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    Re: Xp limited. No oil in pump.

    You need a splined impeller tool as the impeller has to come off. Also a decent seal puller. And of course a new seal.
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    Re: Xp limited. No oil in pump.

    If bearings are not all pitted and trashed out, you may get lucky. The front seal is not what caused it to dry out. That bolt missing did as you concluded. Bolt the cone back on and use silicone around the oring. Loctite the bolts. If front seal is now dead from loss of oil, it will be dripping out after a short ride. If oil level is still good, you might have dodged a bullet. If bearings dont look good, you can get a complete aftermarket rebuild kit for decent price. Not hard to change out parts. If bearings are not junk, putting a new front seal on is a good idea. If you need new parts, make sure to determine if it still has original pump or a newer one. Make sure you replace with a double lip seal and install spring inside facing cavity. In 2000 the seal had only a single lip and was reversed. They didnt last very long. There are several oem part numbers for that seal, but fit all of the older model pumps thru the 951 motors.

    Usually when they dry out, the thrust bearing will denigrate and thrust bearing surface on shaft will mushroom really bad from overheating. Normally kills the whole pump assembly. The 98 pump is a unicorn, if still has the original. If bad, replace it with a 99 and newer, using the big rubber oring around wear ring to seal at ride shoe. If using a newer pump, remove the spacer washers that are behind pump on thru hull studs. With newer sealing oring you wont need to silicone the pump to shoe anymore.
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