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    PWCToday.com Is My Home Away From Home wmazz's Avatar
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    Yamaha pipe question?

    Why do people like the FPP over the Pro-Tec. Both are similar designs. The only FPP
    pipe that seems different is the Mod pipe.

    I remember when Dallas was working on his 701/760 pipe, and he was spending a lot
    of dyno time to insure the pipe pulled peak HP as long as possible.

    Does it seem like the FPP pipes hit harder?


    Bill M.

    Is there any opinions on the Speedwerks dry pipe?
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    Re: Yamaha pipe question?

    Which Protec?

    Mach 1 or the latest Mach 2?

    The negatives we all read is the mounting of the chamber on the protec's. Its not if they fall apart/break but when.


    Speedwerx was my favorite dry pipe when racing before the Type 9 came out. Type 9 was just a ton lighter.
    Last edited by MTRHEAD; 06-29-2017 at 11:41 AM.

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    Re: Yamaha pipe question?

    Quote Originally Posted by MTRHEAD View Post
    Which Protec?

    Mach 1 or the latest Mach 2?

    The negatives we all read is the mounting of the chamber on the protec's. Its not if they fall apart/break but when.
    Either one, What is the performance like?

    Looking at the pictures of older to newer Pro-Tec pipes, it seemed like Dallas
    doubled down on his hard mount system.

    Quote Originally Posted by MTRHEAD View Post
    Speedwerx was my favorite dry pipe when racing before the Type 9 came out. Type 9 was just a ton lighter.
    Is Speedwerx a snowmobile company? It is the only decent looking pipe design
    of the bunch.

    Is the type 9 a Speedwerx pipe or FPP??



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    Re: Yamaha pipe question?

    type 9.jpgMach 2.JPGMach 2 vs Riva red.JPG


    I have a Mach 2 on a stock spec superjet right now. It's a very large pipe similar in size to the Speedwerx and/or the Type 9. Back half is wet so its legal in stock spec. The chamber mounting is same as all protec's. The Kawasaki rubbers.

    Type 9 is the last superjet dry pipe from FPP.

    Speedwerx was a great dry pipe speedwerx.JPG

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    Re: Yamaha pipe question?

    Comparing only to FPP dry pipes or Limited and Mod wet pipes?

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    Re: Yamaha pipe question?

    I think it has to do with weight: Aren't the Protec Pipes made of Cast Aluminum versus Stamped Sheet Metal for the Factory Pipe Chambers?

    I always heard Racers dismiss as "heavy *** pipe" when referring to the ProTec pipe. Better for absorbing vibration but more weight shaking causes more stress on the cylinder block.

    Probably blamed the heavier ProTec Pipe for cracking cylinder blocks that lacked girdled Head bolt system...

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    Re: Yamaha pipe question?

    Quote Originally Posted by 2strokesmoke View Post
    Comparing only to FPP dry pipes or Limited and Mod wet pipes?
    I was curious about ProTec pipes because I have known DB for a long time.

    I would also like to hear opinions about all the popular Yamaha pipes.

    Quote Originally Posted by JC-SuperJet View Post
    I think it has to do with weight: Aren't the Protec Pipes made of Cast Aluminum versus Stamped Sheet Metal for the Factory Pipe Chambers?
    His early pipes had a stamped S/S chamber. Perhaps there was a reason why
    he changed from a stamped chamber to cast aluminum chamber.


    The Speedwerx pipe looks like it has the same design flaws that cause other
    dry pipes to crack?


    Thank you


    Bill M.

    MTRHead post a picture of the RIVA pipe, I remember that pipe being a big seller
    back in the 90's ?
    Last edited by wmazz; 06-29-2017 at 08:44 PM.
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    Re: Yamaha pipe question?

    We have 2 protec sj b pipes that have good mounts, the ss chamber has broken a bolt or 2 waiting on a new correct mount, the cast pipe is quieter and has not had any mount problems. Cast pipe is heavy, ss chamber is light tho. Can't imagine the ss version being much heavier than a factory pipe

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    Re: Yamaha pipe question?

    Pics of the red.
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    Re: Yamaha pipe question?

    With the fp it has much more tunability. It took me weeks and weeks to tune a b pipe the first time. You know it when you hit the sweet spot. People leave a lot of power on the table with eaither pipe. The amount of water pressure going into a pipe has a lot to do with how to set addjustment screws. Maybe if someone would put a water PSI gauge on the engine and then give screw settings it possibly could help lots of others get the full power out of their pipe. I think the type 4 doesn't need to be over looked. Overall it's a lot more to a hard hitting setup than just bolting on a pipe.

    I would say a FFP hits a little harder on bottom, but Pro-tec hits hardder in mid/top.


    Quote Originally Posted by wmazz View Post
    Why do people like the FPP over the Pro-Tec. Both are similar designs.

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