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    PWCToday Guru MC Jax's Avatar
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    Re: Smoke on the Water - Water Chamber Melted

    You should get water through the exhaust at idle and at higher rpm's . If your not getting water through the exhaust at higher rpm's , you have to have some sort of issue and I wouldn't put it on the water like that. I would expect you would end up with another melted elbo. I'm not sure what would cause it to do like that but I would investigate it further with the hose
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    Re: Smoke on the Water - Water Chamber Melted

    Well maybe i was incorrect in my description.

    If i i run it at the hose at 4000 RPM for 1m when i got to the back to check the water there is still a lot of smoke there.
    After a few seconds i can see the exhaust but not much water is coming. After same more seconds a lot of water comes out.

    I think this is normal in all skis. Can you check on yours when of this days?

    And why do i think is normal?
    When you increase rpm more gases will come out. More pressure on the waterbox, more water comes out and the water level drops.
    At this time all the water released comes out at the same time.
    When you drop rpm there is less pressure inside the waterbox. Then the water level rises inside til the normal level and comes out from the exhaust again.
    Should be something like this,
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    Re: Smoke on the Water - Water Chamber Melted

    Well I've never rev mine at 4000 rpm for a full minute maybe for 2 or 3 seconds. Could be I guess you don't get enough water pressure off the hose to feed the pisser and the exhaust at that rmp for that long a period.

    When you test ride the ski on the water just stop every few minutes in the beginning and grab the exhaust hose. It will be hot but not so hot you can't grab it. If its too hot to grab then you still have an issue and your gonna melt another elbo
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    Re: Smoke on the Water - Water Chamber Melted

    I agree with you.
    But before runing fast i most double check everything at idle
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    Re: Smoke on the Water - Water Chamber Melted

    Quote Originally Posted by MC Jax View Post
    It will be hot but not so hot you can't grab it. If its too hot to grab then you still have an issue and your gonna melt another elbo
    Well this was how it went.
    Could grab but it was hot.

    I guess the best way its to compare with other ski. That's what i canīt do here.


    My headache actually come from the way the ski was working in the beginning.
    It was ok at idle. As soon was i accelerated the engine become very rough, sounding like an old motorcyle engine. Rev only 4800. Engine was on for about 5m
    Came back. Looked inside the engine compartment. Everything looked ok.
    Went out again with no seats to see the Macsboost module boost indicater. It was building boost. After a few seconds the engine was sounding much better and i could rev up.
    Seats back again. Sound was normal. rev it up to 3k for a little. Rev up and it died twice.
    Started again and it was running fine.
    Ride it for one hour and a half and it was normal. Stopped a couple of times to check the exhaust tube temperature and stopped for 20m for a break.
    Jumped some waves...
    Only at the end i WOT for 1/2 minutes

    So i guess the ski needed 5/10 minutes to "clean up" inside.

    I think i will ride it carefully for 5/10 hours.
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    Re: Smoke on the Water - Water Chamber Melted

    If you can grab it and hold it for a minute it's ok but if you have to release it right away it's too hot. It won't take no time to melt the elbo if your not getting water in the exhaust chamber.
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    Re: Smoke on the Water - Water Chamber Melted

    Well this was how the test ride went....

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    Re: Smoke on the Water - Water Chamber Melted

    well, back into the water and trouble, trouble trouble.

    After about 15m in the water i checked the elbo and it was hot. Too hot.
    Waited a few minutes and started again for 5m. Looked inside and it was very hot. Already same signs of white smoke. Muffler was very hot also. Pisser was ok.
    Got towed in again.

    start the ski still on the water.
    Tool the hose that's on the top of the muffler out and there was water coming out. Not much but it was at idle so that should be normal. So there was water coming the muffler.

    Took out the water and plugged the hose. No water from the exhaust. More pressure ans after a while a few drops were coming out. Really just a few drops.
    It used to trow a lot of water out when it was on the hose.

    So i guess i have a problem inside the muffler.

    Will have to work it out soon.

    I wonder if i can have the water on the hose with the ski of if i take the hose that connects the muffler and the waterbox. That way i could see the water flowing to the water box. without getting up thru the exhaust.


    so:
    It melted cos it was clogged. Took it out and water was coming out the mister hole when i dropped water in. Assembled and lot of water was coming out on the hose.
    Took when out one time and it worked ok. On the hose after with fresh water a lot of water was coming out,
    Second time out almost melted everything again. No water was flowing out on the hose.

    Muffler Muffler Muffler or any other problem?

    What can i do to service the muffler?
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    Re: Smoke on the Water - Water Chamber Melted

    sounds like muffler is plugged.....Exhaust Hole.jpg
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    Re: Smoke on the Water - Water Chamber Melted

    I am sure about that.

    But as it was working some weeks ago when i assembled all the parts i guess maybe something is in inside blocking.

    Something that moved after i first melted the elbow and now blocked the water again.

    may be tricky
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