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    Re: Gun Rights, 2nd Amendment In Total Jeopardy. See Video.

    Quote Originally Posted by nightrider05 View Post
    Jeff,

    How do you know how people felt when AR's were banned last time? If you don't truly know, then you are only making assumptions that none of us cared.

    Once again..it's not just about the guns. Look at everything else going on..the government is simply corrupt and if you fail to see that then I would recommend you open your eyes. The economy is in the tank, unemployment is at a crazy rate, damn near half of america is on social aid, we are being forced to accept a healtcare act that is amazingly flawed at best, and now they just want to keep taking and taking. Pay more taxes, have less jobs, pay(in one way or another) for the Obamacare...and then take our rights such as firearm ownership?

    Also, they aren't just going after banning assault rifles. They want way more than that. As Tferrg and others have posted, some would like for nearly ALL guns to be gone.

    It all starts somewhere...any firearm bill that is passed will be just as retarded as everything else that has gone on under Obama's administration...and I can guarantee there will be alot of fine print.


    For the same reason that you (anyone) don't know if I had one at that time. For the same reason that no one knows if I have a Sig 40 and a CC permit. For the same reason that know one knows if I have a 50cal with a case or tracers. I am simply pointing out that it seams this time that people are just now smelling the roses. You point is right but not necessary as I have been watching our country falling apart for most my life after high school. You guys are right as far as seeing that the government and the current and every other party in office for the last 40 years is slowly taking your rights. . But it's a little late if your just figuring this out now ask me. I think the question for me is why is this so important but most people never really even mention any issues with the way government runs until this kind of stuff happens. As far as some wanting to get rid of all civil arms.. Of course some will want that. No worries though. History shows the laws going back and forth on these issues. So the question to ask yourself is what are you going to do about it? Other than write a letter to your State rep? To me it is a little strange that people are acting like gun laws have remained the same since 1886. Guns have been under attack for a long long long time. So it is not some new discovery.



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    Re: Gun Rights, 2nd Amendment In Total Jeopardy. See Video.

    Quote Originally Posted by nightrider05 View Post
    Jeff,

    How do you know how people felt when AR's were banned last time? If you don't truly know, then you are only making assumptions that none of us cared.

    Once again..it's not just about the guns. Look at everything else going on..the government is simply corrupt and if you fail to see that then I would recommend you open your eyes. The economy is in the tank, unemployment is at a crazy rate, damn near half of america is on social aid, we are being forced to accept a healtcare act that is amazingly flawed at best, and now they just want to keep taking and taking. Pay more taxes, have less jobs, pay(in one way or another) for the Obamacare...and then take our rights such as firearm ownership?

    Also, they aren't just going after banning assault rifles. They want way more than that. As Tferrg and others have posted, some would like for nearly ALL guns to be gone.

    It all starts somewhere...any firearm bill that is passed will be just as retarded as everything else that has gone on under Obama's administration...and I can guarantee there will be alot of fine print.
    ^^^ Yes, well spoken.

    At this point in time the leftism, or surge to the left, and socialism, and full governmental control, has never been so great and 'on the move'. Obama and gang are 'state of the art' too. They are experts at propaganda and exploitation and lies. They twists words and persuade the foolish, not thinking, only emoting masses. He is the Santa Claus of this current 'gimme, gimme' society. Now he/they will promise, safety and security 'if only we get rid of the terrible guns'. Obama WILL push strong his agendas, like you have never seen him in his first term. He and the super libs ideals are frightning, the exact opposite of freedom and liberty. I hope people now will come out of their slumber and wake up to the fact that we are on a razors edge to where we will fall, without return, into a reinvented, non-constitutional, weak, socialistic, big government, country.

    Please keep in mind, what the 2nd Amendment really is, why it was created, and why "it shall not be infringed". It has to remain strong esp during this vulnerable time.

    Look, we all know that any gun or magazine restriction will do nothing for the senseless killing. It's totally obvious that these politicians are up to no good, want to disarm good folk. I truly question they ethics/motives.

    Once again we all need to seriously look at the next post and take action now...
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    Re: Gun Rights, 2nd Amendment In Total Jeopardy. See Video.

    Why: see video-

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=wj1PycmPEXI


    Dianne Feinstein's Bill-

    http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/publ...ssault-weapons

    http://nraila.org/legislation/federa...-ban-bill.aspx


    How: see easy & fast link below. Congressman and Senators will automatically be found & provided per your zip code-

    http://www.congress.org/congressorg/...046526&type=ML


    What to tell them: copy and paste my letter (or use as reference and create your own letter)-


    Subject: No Gun Ban or Restrictions



    Hello,

    In light of the very tragic shooting in the Connecticut school, I am writing to you to express my opinion in hopes it will be heard and recognized. I believe that the blame and actions our government may take will be focused on the wrong culprit. Focusing on the weapon, an inanimate object makes no sense. Man has murdered using numerous means very effectively in the past. Adam Lanza could have easily thrown a few homemade bombs in those classrooms and accomplished the same terrible results.

    My concern is with this highly politicized Gun topic and the negative, untruthful, propagandized, Anti-Gun Movement/Media, is that our Gun Rights and the 2nd Amendment will be dismantled one regulation at a time. I fear that my freedom of using my guns to defend myself from evil and my freedom to use any gun for sport and hunting will be violated. I fear my CPL right may be in jeopardy too.

    Please do not ban/restrict any specific weapon (AR15 or any other), type (semi auto shotgun, rifle, handgun), category, model, any magazine (30 round or any other), part or accessory, etc. To vilify one specific gun or magazine makes no sense and takes focus off the real reasons and answers. It also gives potentially dubious power to those who instate that law/decision to vilify and ban the next gun and the next. A very slippery slope.

    In my mind the issue and solution is found in the individual person and being personally responsible for his actions. Our morally declining culture, the mental health issue, the medications, our ‘We don’t need God’ mentality, our legal system and prison sentencing and release, etc., all weigh in on why things like this happen and need to be highly considered for the steps to curb tragic occurrences from happening. I also support having police and/or trained concealed teachers at the schools.

    Man is either good or bad. He shows love or hate. He can defend and support life or he can maliciously take it away. The object that the bad man uses to carry out evil should not be on trial or banned, whether it’s a pillow, ax, knife, baseball bat, gun or the ingredients to create a homemade bomb. It’s the man. It’s the continual downward spiral in our society that truly needs to be heavily considered.

    Please, keep our freedom and liberty, our 2nd Amendment and Gun Rights fully intact. Please, DO NOT support or in-act the Dianne Feinstein Bill.

    No matter what you ban or make illegal, will only affect the good, peaceable, law abiding man. The evil doer or criminal will always find the means to carry out his evil plans.Sincerely,
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    Re: Gun Rights, 2nd Amendment In Total Jeopardy. See Video.

    It's gonna be my part time job to defend my Constitution rights. I hope you all are on board and passing the word.

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    Re: Gun Rights, 2nd Amendment In Total Jeopardy. See Video.

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    Re: Gun Rights, 2nd Amendment In Total Jeopardy. See Video.

    Just a friendly reminder.

    I believe we all are aware of the craziness with the Legistlation pending massive threats to your Freedom and Rights and our 2nd Amendment, which would put all people in a very low and vulnerable state. Biden has used the words "Executive Action" to push his agenda. The word "Confiscation" and "Forced Turn In" has even been heard. WOW!

    If you haven't contacted Obama/Biden and your congressman and senator, you can do so with the below website. It locates your individuals per your zip code. Very easy and fast.

    If you have contacted them, do so again. Squeaky wheel gets oiled. Gotta be vocal, too important!

    Pass this along. Thx.

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    Re: Gun Rights, 2nd Amendment In Total Jeopardy. See Video.

    This was posted on the X. Thought it was worth a link here. Good stuff!

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    Re: Gun Rights, 2nd Amendment In Total Jeopardy. See Video.

    Great video. I hate when the assholes like Piers Morgan latch onto one random statistic (that's not even correct) and think that's the all encompassing tell-tale fact for something without looking at any other correlating facts.
    It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong. I am not a big man.

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    Re: Gun Rights, 2nd Amendment In Total Jeopardy. See Video.

    Liberals live in emotion and fear mongering. Logic and common-sense are far from them. They believe in government control and equalizing the citizens according to their domain. They twist the truth (lie) to reshape the minds of the weak/ignorant, I believe the greater populous. Liberals are modern fools and they are in Office. Basically teenager mindset in adult bodies.

    Also, they don't believe in personal responsibility for ones action. In this debate they place the blame on the inanimate object. Sound or comparative data mean nothing to them. All the last 3 mass shootings (school, mall, movie theater) were cause by a crazy, deranged, evil person who planned out and stole the weapon(s). How do you regulate that?

    Note- The Batman movie idiot, I believe purchase the weapons and I still think that an AR15 was not even used in the school shooting.
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    Re: Gun Rights, 2nd Amendment In Total Jeopardy. See Video.

    ^^^The AR15 was not used. All of the innitial reports said that it was found in the trunk. Only later did the story change, most likely because it didn't fit the agenda of the gun grabbers. I know the media rushes to report things when they first happen and a lot of times they report things that aren't true, but how did that information ever make it out if it wasn't true? It really doesn't make any sense, along with a lot of things from that shooting.
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