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Thread: VTS Bypass Fix

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    Re: VTS Bypass Fix

    Quote Originally Posted by skuzzlebutt View Post
    would the gauge still work?
    It should, its on a separate circuit.

    Quote Originally Posted by blazerman View Post
    Can you hear or feel a click when the relay changes state normally?
    Yes, mine makes a click that can be heard and felt. I don't know the SD colors but the red of the 451 should be connected to positive. When each of the others are grounded the respective relay should click.

    I made a hand drawing of the circuit that I assembled that seemed to work (no motor connected). I don't have the drawing with me now and I can only remember that when the green control wire (the small one) is grounded, the source voltage on the purple wire is connected to the larger green wire. Same is true of the blues, when the small blue is grounded the purple wire is connected to the large blue. I would leave all the large wires disconnected until you confirm this much.

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    Re: VTS Bypass Fix

    I too would be interested in a "how to"

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    Re: VTS Bypass Fix

    Ah, that makes sense. The red wire on the relay input leads must be the common for the up/down buttons and would require power - I thought maybe those were powered internally. I will try tonight. When I do get this done I will post pics and connections complete to help anyone else trying to do this.

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    Re: VTS Bypass Fix

    I think there might be two different version of the DEI module. One solid state, one with relays. What you need is the solid state unit.
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    Re: VTS Bypass Fix

    Sorry I haven't checked this thread for a while.

    Blazerman, I assume that you have triple checked that all the wires are hooked up right.

    Did you hit the start button so that the seadoo ignition powers up the electrical components? The VTS system will not with on its own, the seadoo has to have the ignition on to power the 451 relay.

    You could have bad relay but you said you had two of them, so if all else fails try the other one.
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    Re: VTS Bypass Fix

    Seriously...whoever post a picture for everyone will be a hero so lets do it. A wiring diagram would be good too.

    I dont really care cuz I'm a manual trim kinda guy but it would be awesome to see a simple solution work; esp. if it even stops on its own like a power window relay.
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    Re: VTS Bypass Fix

    As soon as I get a chance to finish mine and get it working I fully intend on posting enough info for everyone, just got to find time.

    BTW Minnetonka, I don't know if I ever thanked you for the carbs I got from you this winter. I opened them up and they looked like they had never even been run! I just dissasembled them, cleaned em up, and put them back together. Now I am scrambling to get both of my XP's back together so I can start having fun. I am changing my middle name to procrastination!

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    Re: VTS Bypass Fix

    Quote Originally Posted by Minnetonka4me View Post
    Seriously...whoever post a picture for everyone will be a hero so lets do it. A wiring diagram would be good too.

    I dont really care cuz I'm a manual trim kinda guy but it would be awesome to see a simple solution work; esp. if it even stops on its own like a power window relay.
    A picture is not worth anything, all you will see is the normal mess of wires. It will not help anyone figure out how to fix the VTS. Posting a picture will create a million questions about "whats that" or "where is the relay" and not create any solutions.

    Take the VTS out of the seadoo, cut the wires to the VTS box, except the brown ones. Its that simple, then wire in the Relay as per my instructions above to the cut wires. A picture will not explain anything or help you figure it out.

    If anyone is still interested in a picture I will take one, but its not worth anything, you can't see anything.
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    Re: VTS Bypass Fix

    This looks like crap but it gets the point across. I don't have the relay in front of me but I think this is accurate and should work.

    Now somebody needs to confirm the solid state version of this 451 relay and whether or not it has the auto-shutoff.
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    Re: VTS Bypass Fix

    It should have an auto shut off, I know mine shuts off when I have the trim go up to where it "tops out", but I guess I didn't test it going down, I would assume it works the same going down.
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