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    Yamaha 65U & 63M

    Harry I just shipped out my intake manifold, carbs and head off my 1100 waveraider. Here's my question.

    Is it possible to install 65U cylinder with pistons bored .50 over on 63 cases? Will they clear the cases without boring?

    Will the Triple 38M carbs support it? I'm thinking about doing this if possible and asking you to jet my carbs for a 65U bored .50 over.

    Will this run better then the big bore kit 1130 setup? How reliable is this?

    Let me know

    Thanks

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    Re: Yamaha 65U & 63M

    While the 1200 cylinder will bolt right on to 1100 cases, we don't recommend it (in the world of today's 91 octane fuel). The 38 carbs can feed the 1200 cylinder okay, but the problem is the ignition curves.

    The 1200 igntion has seperate curves for each cylinder that makes for better performance of the 1200 cylinder, as well as better prospects of being pump gas safe.

    If you have the 1100 ignition, you will get the best performance results with an 81-82mm 1100 cylinder ... I know it seems like the 84mm 1200 cylinder should be an obvious increase on that motor, but repeated on-water tests have shown otherwise.

    Respectfully, Harry Klemm



    Quote Originally Posted by Lakeside518
    Harry I just shipped out my intake manifold, carbs and head off my 1100 waveraider. Here's my question.

    Is it possible to install 65U cylinder with pistons bored .50 over on 63 cases? Will they clear the cases without boring?

    Will the Triple 38M carbs support it? I'm thinking about doing this if possible and asking you to jet my carbs for a 65U bored .50 over.

    Will this run better then the big bore kit 1130 setup? How reliable is this?

    Let me know

    Thanks
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    Re: Yamaha 65U & 63M

    Is that because the port timing is "hotter' on the 65u cylinders? I don't understand what ignition timing has to do with a displacement increase.

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    Re: Yamaha 65U & 63M

    Quote Originally Posted by stephenspann27 View Post
    Is that because the port timing is "hotter' on the 65u cylinders? I don't understand what ignition timing has to do with a displacement increase.

    I'll answer my own question. The porting is not "hotter" on the 65u. The exhaust port is actually higher on the 65u.

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    Re: Yamaha 65U & 63M

    Quote Originally Posted by stephenspann27 View Post
    I'll answer my own question. The porting is not "hotter" on the 65u. The exhaust port is actually higher on the 65u.
    So if you have an 1100 bottom end, put a 1200 cylinders and a 1200 ignition system on it and then put the 38mm carbs from the 1100 on there, would that be a good setup?

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    Re: Yamaha 65U & 63M

    Quote Originally Posted by jpswift1 View Post
    So if you have an 1100 bottom end, put a 1200 cylinders and a 1200 ignition system on it and then put the 38mm carbs from the 1100 on there, would that be a good setup?
    will work ! but will work but will not be the setup .
    44'' work much better special when you have porting or big bore or both

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