Mr. Frazier-Hydrospace regional homogolition

skidmark · 10-21-2005, 12:39 PM

We know that the turbo charged HS was homo. for world finals, going by the European rules, but what about regional racing? What rule book are we going to go by? I have read the rule book over and over and it states 200 boats manufactured and available to the general public for racing in the United States. There needs to be a decision made and it needs to be made today on what the rule is going to be.

Kevin Redinger

Frazier · 10-21-2005, 01:28 PM

Kevin,
Thanks for your concern. Please send future questions/comments to scott@ijsba.com as I will soon not be participating in the PwcToday forum.

As the rulebook sits, to compete in United States regional and national events, the 200 produced boats must be made available to the United States through the manufacturer's normal methods of distribution. Again, with Hydrospace, we have an interesting dilema. Hydrospace currently sells direct to the public. If it becomes the case that US customers can draw from the pool of 200, then the rule book allows these craft to participate. The US is going to run into a problem that the solution should, I think, first be formulated by the US affiliate then brought to the IJSBA for negotiation (if any). This problem is going to be that these boats are being sold in the US and will be available to strong numbers very soon. Hydrospace plans to make 2000 boats this year, and my guess is that they can sell all 2000. If Hydrospace has dealers here in the US then the US is probably going to have to come to terms with Hydrospace's inclusion in regional racing. But this is all speculation at this point. My belief is that we should wait a month or two and see what really pans out before we go addressing this matter as a final decision.

I am currently working with Patrick on finalizing the 2006 affiliateship. I will address these concerns with him. I think that when the dust clears the situation will end up with a fair resolution for all involved.

Scott

Slammin Sam · 10-21-2005, 03:40 PM

IMO

the IJSBA as a strong governing body should set/negotiate a date that these craft must be availible for US purchase and delivery. who's steering this ship?

Allowing the HS to compete in novice stock, but not making it availible will KILL regional racing. Why would anybody want to train all year on a slower craft only to have your arss handed to you by a Euro who can afford 12k.

Sorry we just lost more entry level rider/kids to moto cross...nice job IJSBA. I sure hope that HS cut you in their profits, because US riders are tired of paying more for less......

BigKahuna · 10-21-2005, 04:17 PM

I believe the HS should be placed in Limited Class, not stock........ (Even though it meets the stock class requirements) That just my 2 cents.

10-21-2005, 04:22 PM

I think it's time for spec class, not a capacity/mods allowed over what's stock.

Like it is in many sports like car racing, back in the day twin turbos weren't allowed to race so cars that came with twin turbos had to have their turbo removed or race in a higher class.

Prem1x · 10-21-2005, 04:34 PM

I agree with all three posts above.

And Scott made a very valid point that the APBA should be involved in making this decision.

chopper · 10-21-2005, 05:15 PM

Here is an Idea... How about banning certain features allowed in stock class that are avalible on the HS such as Drop Nozzles, Nozzles with interchangeable rings. And if it has a turbo on it make it so there is certain performance peramiters that it has to fall under. Then HS can make AM parts to sell and make their boats stock legal... I am all for 4strokes, but the field and the cost is too offset at this time

CJOZ · 10-21-2005, 06:07 PM

How about Kawi and Yami step up?

dooboy12 · 10-21-2005, 07:04 PM

Since Stock class is supose to be affordable to entice people to get into racing the cost of the ski should retail for under $10,000. and be naturally asperated. This would be for ski or runabout. Anything not fitting these peramiters should bump to Limited.

Racing will continue down hill if you don't make it affordable and competative for the general users. Any Hybrid ski does not belong in the stock class.

When will we learn.

10-21-2005, 08:19 PM

Check out the rule book stock,limited and superstock standup skis are only allowed to go a maximum of 800 CC's. I believe the hs is around 803 or 804 cc. And as I understand it the rule book is not going to change at all for 2006 so that leaves the door open for a lot protests in tech.