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Old 02-15-2009, 08:43 PM   #1
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Inter-Island Traveling

I'm starting to look into inter-island traveling as a way to visiti other islands here in Hawaii and thought I'd start a thread dedicated to the logistics and legality doing such a thing. For the record, I have yet to attempt such an crossing. The below information is what I have learned about from taking PWC courses, word of mouth, and asking knowledgeable veterans. I will attempt to update each section as needed when more information, ideas, suggestions or corrections are given.

PWCs are only allowed at designated and non-ORMA parts of these four islands: Kauai, Oahu, Maui and the Big Island (also known as Hawaii).




Also State of Hawaii Administrative rules, Title 13, Subtitle 11, part 2 states that:
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In non-designated ocean recreation management areas, recreational thrillcraft may operate only in state waters between five hundred feet from the shoreline or the outer edge of the fringing reef whichever is greater and two miles off the islands of Kauai, Oahu, Maui and Hawaii.
Basically, inter-island riding is still illegal, so be aware that you may be cited and even have your PWC impounded if you choose to attempt such a trip. When you are more than 3 miles away from any of the islands, you are in federal waters and no longer under Hawaii law. You cannot be cited or have your PWC impounded in these waters as PWCs are not banned by federal laws. The other islands cannot be approached any closer than 3 miles or you fall back under Hawaii law and can be cited and have your equipment impounded.

Tom Stone of http://www.kanalu-k38.com/ has been at work in getting the PWC restriction overturned and told me yesterday that an inter-island protest ride is being planned.

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Old 02-15-2009, 08:45 PM   #2
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Fuel

FUEL
One of the first things many people will wonder about or ask - Won't you run out of gas?

This depends on many factors with the first and foremost, conditions. It is not possible to get reasonable mileage fighting rough seas with the winds blowing head on at 15+ mph and running against a 1-3+ foot wind swell (chop). These are typical conditions on your average day in Hawaii with the trade winds are blowing. The trade winds blow out of the ENE, so traveling from Kauai to Oahu, Oahu to Maui, Maui to the Big Island will be against the prevailing wind and swells. I strongly advise that such an crossing not be attempted without quality experience under ones belt and a solid understanding of their PWC's ability and range in these conditions. Otherwise wait for a calm day or a Kona day before doing a west to east crossing.

Other major factors that come into play are:

Type of PWC/motor: Current naturally aspirated 4-stroke motors are very fuel efficient compared with older and forced-induction (supercharger/turbo) models, and can get 100+ miles out of a single tank under ideal conditions.

Type of hull design: Deeper "V" hulls like those on the Yamaha FXHO make for a smoother ride through the chop, but require more fuel to part the waters especially at lower speeds or when carrying gear. Flatter hulls require less fuel, but provide a more bumpy ride which could mean having to go quite a bit slower if there's enough chop, and thus the mileage dropping.

Rider's throttle hand/skill: Somebody that likes to goose the throttle and back off repeatedly will net worse mileage. somebody that can anticipate big bumps well in advance and gradually ease off or on the throttle smoothly as needed will get better mileage.

Nevertheless, it is NOT wise to attempt a crossing in either direction without carrying additional gas. There are three options for carrying additional gas.

1) The most expensive and best option would be to get a custom made gas tank installed as there is typically quite a bit of empty space around, behind and above a PWC gas tank. On the FXHO, I bet I could have a tank made that would expand the carrying capacity from 18.5 to 30-35 gallons. However, this would be very time consuming and cost-prohibitive.

2) Fuel bladders was suggested to me by Tom Stone who has successfully done inter-island traveling by PWC on several occasions and was recently in the news after receiving a citation for traveling to another island for a PWC meeting (which was then dropped in court). They are flexible, form fitting and helps a PWC retain a lower center of gravity when placed on the PWC floor in front of the gas tank if there is room. Additional bladders can also be carried (and evenly distributed) in a PWC's gunnels. Bladders typically run $150-$200 for a 10-15 gallon unit so they are still pricey. Also they are very difficult to find.

3) Strapping regular jerry cans to the back of a PWC or a rescue sled. This is the most cost-effective solution. Jerry cans typically cost $20. However, being placed on the back can throw off a PWC's trim which will have consequences on handling/gas mileage unless you have a trim control feature on your PWC (like on the FXHO). Also the cans are exposed to sunlight and heat expansion. Opening the vent cap is not a good idea since it will be exposed to sea spray and take in salt water. One solution is to stop, open the vent cap part-way to let expanded air escape once in a while when riding.



General Distances
Oahu's Waianae Ramp (west side) to Kauai Lihiue Ramp (east side): 85 Miles
Oahu's Waianae Ramp (west side) to Kauai Port Allen Ramp (south side)96 Miles
Oahu's Hawaii Kai Ramp (southeast side) to Molokai Kanakakai Harbor 46 Miles
Oahu's Ala Moana Bowl/Ala Wai Ramp (south near "Town") to Molokai Kanakakai Harbor 57 Miles
Oahu's Hawaii Kai Ramp to Maui Lahaina harbor 75 Miles

Kauai Port Allen to Niihau's Northern Island: 35 miles
Kauai Port Allen, around Niihau, back to Kauai Port Allen 100 Miles
Kauai Port Allen to Kaula and back: 129 Miles

Maui Kihei rd + ala Koa st Ramp to BI Kealakehe Ramp 80 Miles
Maui Kihei rd + ala Koa st Ramp to BI Hilo 123 Miles

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Old 02-15-2009, 09:22 PM   #3
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Re: Inter-Island Traveling

According to Ray, a poster over at pwcforum.com...

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From page 16 of June 2002 copy of Personal Watercraft Illustrated;
Honda F12 uses 4.1 gallons/hour at 30 mph
Honda F12X uses 5.8 gallons/hour at 30 mph
Yamaha FX140 uses 5.0 gallons/hour at 30 mph

Per Personal Watercraft Illustrated in 2007
35 mph cruise:
Honda F-12X..........3.1 gph
Kawasaki STX-15F...3.7 gph
Yamaha FX HO........4.5 gph
Sea-Doo RXT..........6.4 gph

WOT (wide open throttle):
Honda F-12X..........12.2 gph
Kawasaki STX-15F...10.2 gph
Yamaha FX HO........10.8 gph
Bear in mind that these numbers were most likely taken under very smooth conditions with no winds present. We rarely have those kind of conditions here in Hawaii.

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Old 02-15-2009, 11:02 PM   #4
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Re: Inter-Island Traveling

Hey Paul,

I was thinking of doing a ride like this too. Some of my friends have went from Keokea beach in north Kohala to Hana and back in the same day on a tank of gas. They were on HO's. The distance traveled both ways was just over 50 miles. Still had a little over 1/4th tank left. But the Alenuiaha channel was like glass that day. They wait for Kona winds and then blast off at like 5am in the morning and get back by 10am. I think the winds were like 5 to 15mph coming out of the southwest. Just last summer they did this. So it is possible. Now gear I would take is GPS, EPIRB and cell phone too. I can't wait for the ferry to start coming to Kawaihae so maybe can ride in Oahu and maybe having you city slikckers (Honolulu boys) ship your ski here and ride back. Just a thought. I do ride from Pohoiki to Hilo on the east side 38 miles one way. Rode from Kailua Kona to Kawaihae 32 miles before too. My next trek will be from Miloli'i to Honkahau (Kealakehe ramp). Just about 30 miles.
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Old 02-16-2009, 04:35 AM   #5
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Re: Inter-Island Traveling

Mike,

If I were to ride out to Hilo one day this summer to spearfish/explore the Big Island for a week or so, is there be a way to haul out my ski to flush it/dry it/store it overnight? Or would it be OK to just beach it, chain it to a tree or something? Then rinse it off with bottled water or something? Gotta figure something out.

I do have a spare trailer here currently that does not have a PWC on it should somebody want to visit Oahu in the near future before I sell it.

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Old 02-16-2009, 03:42 PM   #6
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Re: Inter-Island Traveling

I have a double trailer and a single one my freinds dead 03 900stx on could put the 900 on the ground at my place and haul you out. I would not recommend that we put on beach in Hilo bay. Too much Black sand and its worse than white sand on a jet pump. Let me know when your comming and I do have a 5 bedroom house right in Hilo. Lots of room inthe yard.
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Old 02-17-2009, 03:40 AM   #7
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Mike! Will definitely let you know!

Out at sea all day today. Burned out and need to go to bed. Will try to do a post tomorrow evening on safety gear for such a trip in this thread..

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Old 05-15-2009, 10:41 PM   #8
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Re: Inter-Island Traveling

Another thing I want to do just to do it is circumnavigate Oahu. I think I'll start on North Shore with a full tank and go around the west side and gas up on the south shore at ala moana harbor come around the east side and end on NS again. I have an aquatrax F-12. Might bring a 5 gallon tank just for insurance, but I bet it won't be necessary.
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I think that is a great idea, I'll one up ya. Why not organize a poker run around Oahu??? 100$ entrance fee, at gas stops one would pull a card. Make 5 check in points. Best poker hand wins all! Would love to see that happen.
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That does sound like fun. I'm doing it tomorrow. I think I can do it with one stop. I already have a 5 gallon can bungeed securely and I can go at least 100 miles on the F-12 with a tank. so North shore, stop at the ala wai for gas and back to NS again. I'll post here how it went. I'm bringing a camera, but I'm going to make it relatively fast paced. Its 227 miles around so I may get into the 5 gallon tank on the 2nd leg. Small surf and light wind its a good opportunity.
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