help with a freestyle/surf build

idriveanevo · 03-03-2010, 10:50 PM

well ive got a 98%stock sxi pro. only thing done is footholds, crankcase blockoff and a couple other nothings. im wanting a better lighter ski for freestyle and some surf.... whats the difference between a surf ski and a freestyle flatwater ski? im really interested in the BOB hull because of the price and the way its designed but im also worried about it bein to short for anything but a backflip only ski... i dont want to put to much money into the sxi just to be unhappy with its performance.... any thoughts?

Wes K · 03-04-2010, 01:51 AM

I would not recommend the SXI for freestyle. The BOB hull does look pretty sweet and you could drop any motor in it... ie put your 750 motor in it with a few cheap mods it should be flat water backflip-able. As for the performance of it... one should be at the Pismo Beach Surf Slam for people to test out so there should be a lot of feedback from riders. And If it performs well in the surf then it will definately perform well on flatwater.

But if you decide against the BOB hull, everyone will tell you to get a Yamaha Superjet for freestyle and surf. Because there is a much greater variety of aftermarket freestyle parts made for the superjet and because the superjet is quite light compared to the SXI and SXR.

idriveanevo · 03-04-2010, 02:40 AM

thats another thing im waitin on... some more reviews from the bob. i would love to sell my sxi and get a rn sj but im also wanting a shorter/lighter hull. any thought on the highroller stunt hull? if anything, i could get the bob hull built for my sxi pro gear but is it just the sxi hull that holds people back or is it the enginepump and gear as well? that would be alot cheaper since i already have the sxi....

chriselmore_1 · 03-04-2010, 12:30 PM

its the sxi motor. good for a race platform, but not so good for a freestyle platform. that motor has more of a topend hit

Ksarge91 · 03-04-2010, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by idriveanevo

whats the difference between a surf ski and a freestyle flatwater ski?

Surf skis are typically heavily reinforced with more attention to strength then power. They are usually a little heavier then flatwater skis but that actually helps in the surf. A stock length hull performs great in the surf.

A flatwater ski is ideally as light as possible with big power. They are usually anywhere from 2-14 inches shorter than stock.

For a good all around ski, just get yourself a roundnose superjet with some reinforcing, a pipe, head, prop, and grate to start. It won't do flatwater backflips but will be a great all around ski. Build your motor set-up until you figure out what you want to do a little more than just swap it over.

For the record putting a 750 motor in a lightweight aftermarket hull is like putting a honda civic motor in a 69 camaro. It would just be a shame and disappointing.

227 · 03-04-2010, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksarge91

Surf skis are typically heavily reinforced with more attention to strength then power. They are usually a little heavier then flatwater skis but that actually helps in the surf. A stock length hull performs great in the surf.

A flatwater ski is ideally as light as possible with big power. They are usually anywhere from 2-14 inches shorter than stock.

For a good all around ski, just get yourself a roundnose superjet with some reinforcing, a pipe, head, prop, and grate to start. It won't do flatwater backflips but will be a great all around ski. Build your motor set-up until you figure out what you want to do a little more than just swap it over.

For the record putting a 750 motor in a lightweight aftermarket hull is like putting a honda civic motor in a 69 camaro. It would just be a shame and disappointing.

X2- This guy hit it right on the head. A ski set up for surf and a ski set up for flatwater are completely different. Unless your into extremes then your best bet is to get a Super Jet. There's a reason every one says "Get a Super Jet" Kawis are good, I'm not bashing kawis, but kawis are specialized for racing. Super Jets are the best all around ski wth the best power to weight ratio

idriveanevo · 03-04-2010, 01:25 PM

that sounds like a plan... just get a sj. one thing on the sj, what if i do get the bob hull and find a cheap sn sj and swap all that over, and later on find a 701 engine. would the engine be a direct bolt up to the older sn gear? is the pump and all that the same from the sn to the rn?

Ksarge91 · 03-04-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by idriveanevo

that sounds like a plan... just get a sj. one thing on the sj, what if i do get the bob hull and find a cheap sn sj and swap all that over, and later on find a 701 engine. would the engine be a direct bolt up to the older sn gear? is the pump and all that the same from the sn to the rn?

Are you talking about buying a 650 superjet and then sooner or later bolting that engine in a BOB hull and eventually getting a 701?

In my opinion if you're going to build an aftermarket hull you might as well go all out. I think you'd be alot happier with a built roundnose than an aftermarket hull with a 650. For the money it would cost you to buy an aftermarket hull you'd be looking at some really nice engine set-ups.

chriselmore_1 · 03-04-2010, 01:42 PM

yes everything from a sn will swap over accept the pole bracket. you will need a rn pole bracket/pole and im not sure about the mid shaft. it may use the rn mid shaft too but im not sure. pm dkfreestyle about it. if the bob will backie a 701 then you should probablly be able to roll w/ a 650...

Ksarge91 · 03-04-2010, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by chriselmore_1

if the bob will backie a 701

I'd like to see that in person honestly. Not doubting their claims, but a couple peple have claimed backflips with 701's before. Eric malone can backflip the eme with a limited 800 motor. But he's eric malone, he didn't learn how to backflip on it. DK says 2 of their pro riders nosed some in with a limited 701, but I'd still like to see how this boat is accepted by an average, unbiased rider. That short of a hull and I can tell you it won't handle well in the surf, but that's not what it's built for