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03-08-2010, 12:36 PM
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#1 | | Frequent Poster
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| Waveblaster Seat Hey guys, I have a waveblaster seat that has a bite taken out of it by the previous owners dog. I bought another good seat, but want to try and re-upholster this one and while I'm at it shave the hump so I don't rack myself.
I will post pictures when I get home. The chunk is directly out of the back. It is through the yellow cover and the soft padding foam, but the styrofoam is untouched. I want to do it myself because I picked up another one that is stock, so this one doesn't have to be perfect.
My question is what kind padding foam do I use and what kind of glue do I hold it down. Also, how to I cut the foam out, just a hot knife?
I plan on getting it upholstered at a local shop or buying the material and stretching it with a hair dryer and stapling it down. Any do's or don'ts?
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03-09-2010, 12:53 PM
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#2 | | Frequent Poster
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| Re: Waveblaster Seat Anyone? |
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03-09-2010, 01:12 PM
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#3 | | I dream skis
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| Re: Waveblaster Seat Follow this thread. It appears this guy may put some pics up with the process he used to make his seat. Slightly different end result than what you're looking for but at least you can see how he chops it up and puts it together. b1 seat |
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03-09-2010, 05:18 PM
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| Re: Waveblaster Seat Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanmack12000 Follow this thread. It appears this guy may put some pics up with the process he used to make his seat. Slightly different end result than what you're looking for but at least you can see how he chops it up and puts it together. b1 seat |
I had seen that one before, but he doesn't show the process or the materials used. That's all I want to know. I can experiment from there. |
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03-10-2010, 09:30 AM
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#5 | | PWCToday Guru
Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Ocean City, MD
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| Re: Waveblaster Seat Just started mine last weekend, decent results so far. First take a sharpie & mark out evenly where you are going to cut so you have lines to refer to as you go. Using a brand new razor blade cut into the soft foam about half the depth of the blade, go all the way around the area you want to remove. Make the actual cut with a fine tooth hacksaw, put the blade into the groove made by the razor blade & use minimal force, let the blade do the work & it will move thru the foam pretty well. Be careful to keep the saw even, straight, etc - you can always trim with the razor blade once you get the meat out. Looked to me like a heat gun may aid in shaping & re-sealing when you are finished trimming.
Thats where I am so far, I may take out some of the harder foam below but not sure yet.
I plan on taking the entire thing to a local upholstery shop for a waterproof cover when I have the shape/dimensions I want.
Let us know how it goes,
LB |
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03-10-2010, 09:40 AM
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| Re: Waveblaster Seat Quote:
Originally Posted by LBS4 Just started mine last weekend, decent results so far. First take a sharpie & mark out evenly where you are going to cut so you have lines to refer to as you go. Using a brand new razor blade cut into the soft foam about half the depth of the blade, go all the way around the area you want to remove. Make the actual cut with a fine tooth hacksaw, put the blade into the groove made by the razor blade & use minimal force, let the blade do the work & it will move thru the foam pretty well. Be careful to keep the saw even, straight, etc - you can always trim with the razor blade once you get the meat out. Looked to me like a heat gun may aid in shaping & re-sealing when you are finished trimming.
Thats where I am so far, I may take out some of the harder foam below but not sure yet.
I plan on taking the entire thing to a local upholstery shop for a waterproof cover when I have the shape/dimensions I want.
Let us know how it goes,
LB | OK, thanks for that LB. Marking with the sharpie is a good idea. What/where did you get your foam from? Are you just using rubber cement to glue it down once your done or what? |
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03-10-2010, 07:20 PM
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#7 | | PWCToday Guru
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| Re: Waveblaster Seat Not sure what you mean by where I got my foam. When the seat comes completely apart it has a layer of thick soft foam lightly glued to a much harder rigid foam which is attached to the plastic base. What I have described is how I have cut & shaped both the soft foam & a small portion of the hard rigid foam - trying to get the hump out & maybe shorten it up a little. Not sure what I am going to use to re-attach the two, I was going to ask the guys at the upholsterers shop to do it (they know ALOT more than me about this stuff!) before they stretched & stapled a new cover over it for me.
My one big concern about the outer layer of soft foam is it looks very porous like it will absorb alot of water if exposed so I want to make sure I get as water-proof a cover on there as possible.
Still in the middle of my project, this is as far as I have gone with it so far. I really can't wait to see what Lee (GoDocGo on this forum) & his composites guys come up with. I have already put my name in for one of the custom seats when ready (search the B1 forum for "custom seat" I think) but I also want to get my OEM seat right in the meantime.
LB |
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03-10-2010, 07:35 PM
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| Re: Waveblaster Seat Quote:
Originally Posted by LBS4 Not sure what you mean by where I got my foam. When the seat comes completely apart it has a layer of thick soft foam lightly glued to a much harder rigid foam which is attached to the plastic base. What I have described is how I have cut & shaped both the soft foam & a small portion of the hard rigid foam - trying to get the hump out & maybe shorten it up a little. Not sure what I am going to use to re-attach the two, I was going to ask the guys at the upholsterers shop to do it (they know ALOT more than me about this stuff!) before they stretched & stapled a new cover over it for me.
My one big concern about the outer layer of soft foam is it looks very porous like it will absorb alot of water if exposed so I want to make sure I get as water-proof a cover on there as possible.
Still in the middle of my project, this is as far as I have gone with it so far. I really can't wait to see what Lee (GoDocGo on this forum) & his composites guys come up with. I have already put my name in for one of the custom seats when ready (search the B1 forum for "custom seat" I think) but I also want to get my OEM seat right in the meantime.
LB |
Sorry LB, I realized pictures would make this much easier. What happened is, the guy I bought the blaster from had a dog that had eaten into the seat and torn off the squishy top foam. As seen in one picture, I have another stock seat that is in ok condition.
The dog basically took most of the hump out, LOL, but I need some foam to reattach to cover the hard foam that is attached to the seat base.
Last edited by Waveblaster16; 03-10-2010 at 07:40 PM.
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03-10-2010, 08:21 PM
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#9 | | PWCToday Guru
Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Ocean City, MD
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| Re: Waveblaster Seat Ahhhh - now I see we are talking about 2 different things - sorry.
Honestly my foam/padding/upholstery knowledge is really limited. I can tell you that the soft foam seems be basically the same as automotive seat foam (top layer) but as far as fusing something into that as a repair I do not know what would be best.
If you have an automotive upholstery shop close by I would take the whole thing, stop by & ask them what they think, they do this stuff every day & its probably pretty simple for them.
I have seen guys use the thin white foam (kinda like wood floor underlayment) to fill in the voids from the plastic trim pieces prior to recovering without re-using the plastic. That is a separate area & that foam only has to bond to itself & the plastic so not really related to your problem.
The seat comes apart very easily, remove the black plastic trim, take the base off, take the staples out of the cover & remove - I honestly would let an upholstery shop do it correctly for you, probably not too much $ - that work is relatively cheap when a new cover alone costs $100++ from Hydro-Turf or Jet-Trim (and you have to do all the labor anyway.) I imagine they can fill the side voids, repair & recover with a decent waterproof vinyl it for about the same money..... Before you take it to them you can change the shape to your liking - remove hump, shorten, etc.
Keep us posted, LB |
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03-10-2010, 11:00 PM
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| Re: Waveblaster Seat Quote:
Originally Posted by Waveblaster16 I had seen that one before, but he doesn't show the process or the materials used. That's all I want to know. I can experiment from there. |
<<<<<<<<<<<<I CAN TELL YOU HOW ITS DONE LOL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
by the way i have a spare b1 foam the foam you need that will wrok great if u want it. just pm me. |
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